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		<title>By: charlenemc</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>charlenemc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to jump into the fray here but… I tried to warn a prospective adoptive parent about a particular agency (Little Pearls).  In response I received a nasty and somewhat threatening email from the parent. The parent, Suzanne Craig, seems to be questioning this publicly on another forum (she is the “Kellnsuz” that has posted the comments on this blog entry).  I am tired of getting hate mail and threats for speaking up about this agency.  I can’t believe that people would really be interested in reading private emails on this topic, but since I’ve been threatened by both a principal of the agency and a client, I’m going to go ahead and set out the full content of the email below.  What I sent to the parent in question and her response, verbatim.  Have a blast.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I am done trying to warn parents about questionable agencies.  It’s just not worth it!  All one gets in return are threats, anger and pettiness.  &lt;br /&gt;
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From charlenemc&lt;br /&gt;
To: : KellnSuz@aol.com&lt;br /&gt;
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:47 AM&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: agency&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Suzanne. Thanks for sending this research.  I remember doing similar research years ago before I adopted my daughter!  &lt;br /&gt;
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On a separate note, I just noticed that you are using Little Pearls as your agency.  I know there has been some reshuffling at that agency; however, it appears the  relationships for the most part remain at least with regard to Ric Feinberg,and others.  Unlike other instances where allegations are sometimes dismissed as rumours, this is an unsual instance where, because of Feinberg&#039;s decision to prosecute a civil action (which he did not win) on behalf of Maily Latrace (with whom he went into business, apparently knowing her visa was revoked by the Vietnamese Government for child trafficking) there is a big file filled with legal proof, depositions and affidavits.   Assuming you will want to read it, the file is under  Case No. 04-4547-CI-13 (Latrace v. Judith Mosley, et. al), Counsel for Latrace: Richard Feinberg, Circuit Court of the Sixth Judicial Circuit, Pinellas County, Florida, Civil Division.  You can call the clerk of records there at 727-464-3267.&lt;br /&gt;
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Should you proceed through Little Pearls, I sincerely wish you the best of luck and hope you are home with your child very soon!&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Charlene&lt;br /&gt;
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----- Original Message ----- &lt;br /&gt;
From: KellnSuz@aol.com &lt;br /&gt;
To: charlenemc &lt;br /&gt;
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:07 AM&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: agency&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahhh....Charlene....yet another of the &#039;well-meaning&#039; folks who wants to &quot;make sure&quot; we don&#039;t make a mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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Someone should tell me WHAT unethical or illegal activity Little Pearls carried out or has carried out since the reopening.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hiring someone who had a revoked visa doesn&#039;t mean he hired a criminal.  And, if there was never intentions of her traveling to Vietnam, accusations based solely on a visa denial do NOT mean that the agency is involved in some illegal or immoral activity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Debbie Fischer, the new president/ceo, took on Little Pearls with full knowledge of all the legal and rumor weed documents and has set out to create an agency that removes the &#039;black mark&#039; they have so received.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it&#039;s sad that so many people...and many of them who call themselves &#039;christians&#039; are so unforgiving and so unwilling to allow someone to redeem themselves.  I am so grateful that Jesus didn&#039;t do this to me, the worst of sinners.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, if Little Pearls ever ever ever carried out ANY illegal activity, the agency should be closed.  It&#039;s not and, though I&#039;m grateful for your well-meaning warning, I&#039;m using them.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
I promise you that if things go &#039;right&#039; and there&#039;s no &#039;trace&#039; of LaTrace (and I don&#039;t think there will be), I will go absolutely nuts with an unbelievable backlash to all the well-meaners who have the goal of taking down an agency.  Trust me, I will because I hate to see such ugliness.&lt;br /&gt;
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Suzanne&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to jump into the fray here but… I tried to warn a prospective adoptive parent about a particular agency (Little Pearls).  In response I received a nasty and somewhat threatening email from the parent. The parent, Suzanne Craig, seems to be questioning this publicly on another forum (she is the “Kellnsuz” that has posted the comments on this blog entry).  I am tired of getting hate mail and threats for speaking up about this agency.  I can’t believe that people would really be interested in reading private emails on this topic, but since I’ve been threatened by both a principal of the agency and a client, I’m going to go ahead and set out the full content of the email below.  What I sent to the parent in question and her response, verbatim.  Have a blast.  </p>
<p>I am done trying to warn parents about questionable agencies.  It’s just not worth it!  All one gets in return are threats, anger and pettiness.  </p>
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&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211; <br />
From charlenemc<br />
To: : <a href="mailto:KellnSuz@aol.com">KellnSuz@aol.com</a><br />
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:47 AM<br />
Subject: Re: agency</p>
<p>Hi Suzanne. Thanks for sending this research.  I remember doing similar research years ago before I adopted my daughter!  </p>
<p>On a separate note, I just noticed that you are using Little Pearls as your agency.  I know there has been some reshuffling at that agency; however, it appears the  relationships for the most part remain at least with regard to Ric Feinberg,and others.  Unlike other instances where allegations are sometimes dismissed as rumours, this is an unsual instance where, because of Feinberg&#8217;s decision to prosecute a civil action (which he did not win) on behalf of Maily Latrace (with whom he went into business, apparently knowing her visa was revoked by the Vietnamese Government for child trafficking) there is a big file filled with legal proof, depositions and affidavits.   Assuming you will want to read it, the file is under  Case No. 04-4547-CI-13 (Latrace v. Judith Mosley, et. al), Counsel for Latrace: Richard Feinberg, Circuit Court of the Sixth Judicial Circuit, Pinellas County, Florida, Civil Division.  You can call the clerk of records there at 727-464-3267.</p>
<p>Should you proceed through Little Pearls, I sincerely wish you the best of luck and hope you are home with your child very soon!</p>
<p>Charlene</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211; <br />
From: <a href="mailto:KellnSuz@aol.com">KellnSuz@aol.com</a> <br />
To: charlenemc <br />
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:07 AM<br />
Subject: Re: agency</p>
<p>Ahhh&#8230;.Charlene&#8230;.yet another of the &#8216;well-meaning&#8217; folks who wants to &#8220;make sure&#8221; we don&#8217;t make a mistake.</p>
<p>Someone should tell me WHAT unethical or illegal activity Little Pearls carried out or has carried out since the reopening.</p>
<p>Hiring someone who had a revoked visa doesn&#8217;t mean he hired a criminal.  And, if there was never intentions of her traveling to Vietnam, accusations based solely on a visa denial do NOT mean that the agency is involved in some illegal or immoral activity.</p>
<p>Debbie Fischer, the new president/ceo, took on Little Pearls with full knowledge of all the legal and rumor weed documents and has set out to create an agency that removes the &#8216;black mark&#8217; they have so received.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s sad that so many people&#8230;and many of them who call themselves &#8216;christians&#8217; are so unforgiving and so unwilling to allow someone to redeem themselves.  I am so grateful that Jesus didn&#8217;t do this to me, the worst of sinners.</p>
<p>Now, if Little Pearls ever ever ever carried out ANY illegal activity, the agency should be closed.  It&#8217;s not and, though I&#8217;m grateful for your well-meaning warning, I&#8217;m using them.</p>
<p>I promise you that if things go &#8216;right&#8217; and there&#8217;s no &#8216;trace&#8217; of LaTrace (and I don&#8217;t think there will be), I will go absolutely nuts with an unbelievable backlash to all the well-meaners who have the goal of taking down an agency.  Trust me, I will because I hate to see such ugliness.</p>
<p>Suzanne</p>
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		<title>By: adoptionblogmom</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>adoptionblogmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear your adoption went well.  It&#039;s also nice that Ric Feinberg sent you a gift while you were in Vietnam. Unfortunately, you are mistaken that the &quot;connection&quot; between Little Pearls and Mai Ly Latrace is &quot;nothing.&quot;  In fact, Feinberg opened up the adoption agency with Mai Ly Latrace (as co-principals) with knowledge about Ms. Latrace (warnings, documents, etc).  Ric&#039;s relationship and ties with Mai Ly Latrace (including his current one) are not really matters to &quot;guess&quot; about and are set forth in corporate records. And also, the files in the court case that he and Mai Ly Latrace brought (a case that was so baseless the judge threw it out of court).  The disclosures about Ric in that court case (as well as Mai Ly) are astonishing and the deposition of Mr. Feinberg himself is a painful read.  In any event, as I&#039;ve already posted, Mr. Feinberg&#039;s adoption agency is still so strongly connected to Mai Ly Latrace, they even showed up a short while ago to represent her in court (as I posted about Keith Wynne).  As far as &quot;bashing&quot; and urging support of adoptive parents, it&#039;s possible you are confusing this matter with another. Ric and Mai Ly went after adoptive parents (with the lawsuit), not vice versa.  Unless you are talking about the actions taken against Feinberg by the Florida state regulators who are in charge of adoption agencies (in which case, I wouldn&#039;t call that &quot;bashing&quot;).  

PS - if Ric Feinberg &quot;acknowledged&quot; anything to you about Mai Ly Latrace, he sung a much different tune when asked on the official record (of his and Latrace&#039;s own lawsuit) and to the Florida licensing authorities.  I think the blogger for this piece did a fine job uncovering the pieces and while it&#039;s nice you once got a gift from Mr. Feinberg, this thread of factual information (not gossip) has nothing to do with you or the adoption of your daughter.  The author of this blog (and commenters like me) take good care to uncover and detail factual information and lay it out for those interested.  If you are not interested, just move along and spare us the &quot;stop bashing Ric&quot; stuff.  The man has made a complete buffoon of himself all over the internet (and in real life) and has now gotten himself into some serious hot water in court. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear your adoption went well.  It&#8217;s also nice that Ric Feinberg sent you a gift while you were in Vietnam. Unfortunately, you are mistaken that the &#8220;connection&#8221; between Little Pearls and Mai Ly Latrace is &#8220;nothing.&#8221;  In fact, Feinberg opened up the adoption agency with Mai Ly Latrace (as co-principals) with knowledge about Ms. Latrace (warnings, documents, etc).  Ric&#8217;s relationship and ties with Mai Ly Latrace (including his current one) are not really matters to &#8220;guess&#8221; about and are set forth in corporate records. And also, the files in the court case that he and Mai Ly Latrace brought (a case that was so baseless the judge threw it out of court).  The disclosures about Ric in that court case (as well as Mai Ly) are astonishing and the deposition of Mr. Feinberg himself is a painful read.  In any event, as I&#8217;ve already posted, Mr. Feinberg&#8217;s adoption agency is still so strongly connected to Mai Ly Latrace, they even showed up a short while ago to represent her in court (as I posted about Keith Wynne).  As far as &#8220;bashing&#8221; and urging support of adoptive parents, it&#8217;s possible you are confusing this matter with another. Ric and Mai Ly went after adoptive parents (with the lawsuit), not vice versa.  Unless you are talking about the actions taken against Feinberg by the Florida state regulators who are in charge of adoption agencies (in which case, I wouldn&#8217;t call that &#8220;bashing&#8221;).  </p>
<p>PS &#8211; if Ric Feinberg &#8220;acknowledged&#8221; anything to you about Mai Ly Latrace, he sung a much different tune when asked on the official record (of his and Latrace&#8217;s own lawsuit) and to the Florida licensing authorities.  I think the blogger for this piece did a fine job uncovering the pieces and while it&#8217;s nice you once got a gift from Mr. Feinberg, this thread of factual information (not gossip) has nothing to do with you or the adoption of your daughter.  The author of this blog (and commenters like me) take good care to uncover and detail factual information and lay it out for those interested.  If you are not interested, just move along and spare us the &#8220;stop bashing Ric&#8221; stuff.  The man has made a complete buffoon of himself all over the internet (and in real life) and has now gotten himself into some serious hot water in court.</p>
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		<title>By: lhendrickson</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>lhendrickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this by accident but I felt led to post....I was a victim of adoption fraud by Mia Ly latrace and another adoption agency.  This was in 2005 very long story, but the connection between Little Pearls was &quot;tried&quot; guess what NOTHING!   I had several conversations with Mr. Fienberg , he was very open about his relationship with both mother &amp; daughter.  The mother Marie was the original fac. on the adoption it was her who told me something was up with the adoption- if she had not helped me I would not be home with my daughter today.  Although another agency did take over and finalize my adoption with her help, VN officials, and US Embassy.  I completed my adoption soo smoothly last December at a time when many other agengies where held up due to the holidays and amount of adoptions at that time and the Ebmbassy looking into a few...i sailed through and all the players knew all the players in my adoption and NO PROBLEMS.&lt;br /&gt;
Marie and Ric sent gifts to the orphange for me when I was without an agency during the relic. both offered to help in any way they could, no charge.  I spent a lot of time with officials in VN on both sides and was open abot past and current, I learned a lot.&lt;br /&gt;
I also had &quot;secret&quot; people contacting me proir warning me, threating to take me to court on there suites, and telling me I would never get my daughter, it was horrid.&lt;br /&gt;
Conclusion...YES there is a lot we can learn from the internet, yes Mai Ly is a CROOK,( while in VN I meet with Marie and we had a LONGGGGGGGGG talk about her daughter), I canot speak about Ric&#039;s or Maries past and if they have done wrong then yes they need to be held accountable, but I also know there are a few out there that have such a vendetta against them.  it is possible to be to make a mistake and be fooled.  Both Ric and Marie acknowledge Mai Ly&#039;s mistakes and agree she should pay.&lt;br /&gt;
I know I&#039;m gonna take heat for this post, I&#039;m just tired of people slamming other people.  Making threats of NOIDS- what a horrid thing to say to someone.  Yes someone should do their homework, yes adoptions should be legal, but theres enough work in the world- support each other and if something should happen, be there to help.  Or..do something positive for adoptions, start a support group something, but this bashing has got to stop.&lt;br /&gt;
MOMMY to the wonderful Mia Grace.&lt;br /&gt;
God knew she would be with us the entire time, and we trusted Him completely the entire time.  Her first Gotch day is 12-12-07 can&#039;t wait!&lt;br /&gt;
Blessings,&lt;br /&gt;
Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this by accident but I felt led to post&#8230;.I was a victim of adoption fraud by Mia Ly latrace and another adoption agency.  This was in 2005 very long story, but the connection between Little Pearls was &#8220;tried&#8221; guess what NOTHING!   I had several conversations with Mr. Fienberg , he was very open about his relationship with both mother &amp; daughter.  The mother Marie was the original fac. on the adoption it was her who told me something was up with the adoption- if she had not helped me I would not be home with my daughter today.  Although another agency did take over and finalize my adoption with her help, VN officials, and US Embassy.  I completed my adoption soo smoothly last December at a time when many other agengies where held up due to the holidays and amount of adoptions at that time and the Ebmbassy looking into a few&#8230;i sailed through and all the players knew all the players in my adoption and NO PROBLEMS.<br />
Marie and Ric sent gifts to the orphange for me when I was without an agency during the relic. both offered to help in any way they could, no charge.  I spent a lot of time with officials in VN on both sides and was open abot past and current, I learned a lot.<br />
I also had &#8220;secret&#8221; people contacting me proir warning me, threating to take me to court on there suites, and telling me I would never get my daughter, it was horrid.<br />
Conclusion&#8230;YES there is a lot we can learn from the internet, yes Mai Ly is a CROOK,( while in VN I meet with Marie and we had a LONGGGGGGGGG talk about her daughter), I canot speak about Ric&#8217;s or Maries past and if they have done wrong then yes they need to be held accountable, but I also know there are a few out there that have such a vendetta against them.  it is possible to be to make a mistake and be fooled.  Both Ric and Marie acknowledge Mai Ly&#8217;s mistakes and agree she should pay.<br />
I know I&#8217;m gonna take heat for this post, I&#8217;m just tired of people slamming other people.  Making threats of NOIDS- what a horrid thing to say to someone.  Yes someone should do their homework, yes adoptions should be legal, but theres enough work in the world- support each other and if something should happen, be there to help.  Or..do something positive for adoptions, start a support group something, but this bashing has got to stop.<br />
MOMMY to the wonderful Mia Grace.<br />
God knew she would be with us the entire time, and we trusted Him completely the entire time.  Her first Gotch day is 12-12-07 can&#8217;t wait!<br />
Blessings,<br />
Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: kellnsuz</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>kellnsuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, Adoptionblogmom, but the inconsistencies beg comment.  I wish I had a private email for you or that you had emailed me privately as I gave my address here, but here goes....&lt;br /&gt;
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You found my blog, and I have no idea how.  You then figured out how to find my name on my blog (which is Suzanne, and which is nowhere else but on a link on my blog and which is how you referred to me on my friend&#039;s daughter&#039;s blog).  Then, you found out how to link to my friend&#039;s daughter&#039;s blog (yes, to me she&#039;s a kid...she&#039;s 17 years younger than me).  Then, you knew how to comment to her blog post. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, she&#039;s a married person, but she&#039;s just a kid.  She is barely &#039;in the know&#039; on having kids no less getting dragged into the kindness in the Vietnam adoption &quot;community.&quot;  That was just not fair at all for you to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure how you didn&#039;t find the TWO email addresses (again...I&#039;ll post it here, because I have nothing to hide from...kellnsuz@gmail.com) I have linked on my blog.  I&#039;m not sure why you couldn&#039;t post that comment to my blog.  My friend&#039;s daughter&#039;s blog is through google, just like mine, and it shouldn&#039;t have been so impossible for you to do all of the above through mine.  Especially, the fact that BOTH of my email addresses are on there. &lt;br /&gt;
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But, you say you had no other way to contact me, so you dragged my friend&#039;s kid into it. &lt;br /&gt;
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The inconsistencies are glaring.....&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, Adoptionblogmom, but the inconsistencies beg comment.  I wish I had a private email for you or that you had emailed me privately as I gave my address here, but here goes&#8230;.</p>
<p>You found my blog, and I have no idea how.  You then figured out how to find my name on my blog (which is Suzanne, and which is nowhere else but on a link on my blog and which is how you referred to me on my friend&#8217;s daughter&#8217;s blog).  Then, you found out how to link to my friend&#8217;s daughter&#8217;s blog (yes, to me she&#8217;s a kid&#8230;she&#8217;s 17 years younger than me).  Then, you knew how to comment to her blog post. </p>
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Yes, she&#8217;s a married person, but she&#8217;s just a kid.  She is barely &#8216;in the know&#8217; on having kids no less getting dragged into the kindness in the Vietnam adoption &#8220;community.&#8221;  That was just not fair at all for you to do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you didn&#8217;t find the TWO email addresses (again&#8230;I&#8217;ll post it here, because I have nothing to hide <a href="mailto:from...kellnsuz@gmail.com">from&#8230;kellnsuz@gmail.com</a>) I have linked on my blog.  I&#8217;m not sure why you couldn&#8217;t post that comment to my blog.  My friend&#8217;s daughter&#8217;s blog is through google, just like mine, and it shouldn&#8217;t have been so impossible for you to do all of the above through mine.  Especially, the fact that BOTH of my email addresses are on there. </p>
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But, you say you had no other way to contact me, so you dragged my friend&#8217;s kid into it. </p>
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The inconsistencies are glaring&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: adoptionblogmom</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>adoptionblogmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As someone, and I have no idea who, (because they are hiding behind anonymity), LIED to my friend&#039;s daughter, I am afraid of what you people will do if I tell the names of the current LP facilitators.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I really don&#039;t know what the problem is here. You posted on here and when I heard about the most recent summary judgment against your agency director (and the attempt by another one of your agency director&#039;s to stop that from happening) I posted it on here because you said you were eagerly awaiting the result of that litigation.  But you were no longer on here so I went to your blog.  Seeing no email for you, I simply gave a link to this site on one of the sites you linked to a site of a married couple, not a child or &quot;kid&quot;.  No commentary. Just a link and a note saying there&#039;s an update on the lawsuit Kellnsuz was wondering about and if she hasn&#039;t read it please tell her the info is here (on this blog).  How that translates into &quot;lying&quot; to your &quot;friend&#039;s kid&quot; is beyond me. &lt;br /&gt;
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Like I said, you&#039;ve made your decision and don&#039;t seem much interested in your agency&#039;s situation and the &quot;evidence&quot; you originally posted asking for.  I&#039;m through trying to help you find &quot;evidence.&quot;  Good luck.  Hopefully, your adoption will proceed under the new rules wherein a child is determined to be an orphan or not BEFORE a parent goes and adopts him/her in Viet Nam.  That should protect you from having to be stuck in Viet Nam like other families are right now.&lt;br /&gt;
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Next time, admit you are using an agency that has all the issues already noted here because they have a child you want to adopt, period. Or do it in secret.  Because your attempts to distinguish this or that are not effective.  The facts stand as they are and your own agency director (director of the board of directors) started an agency with the infamous Maily Latrace, fibbed about his involvement with her (as indicated by the Florida DCF among other sources) and prosecuted a case for her which he lost (and may even end up paying attorneys fees for).  Still director of your agency.  And even another director of your agency is still trying to represent Maily Latrace.  Not at all the &quot;clean break&quot; you posted about.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Don&#039;t shoot the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As someone, and I have no idea who, (because they are hiding behind anonymity), LIED to my friend&#8217;s daughter, I am afraid of what you people will do if I tell the names of the current LP facilitators.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know what the problem is here. You posted on here and when I heard about the most recent summary judgment against your agency director (and the attempt by another one of your agency director&#8217;s to stop that from happening) I posted it on here because you said you were eagerly awaiting the result of that litigation.  But you were no longer on here so I went to your blog.  Seeing no email for you, I simply gave a link to this site on one of the sites you linked to a site of a married couple, not a child or &#8220;kid&#8221;.  No commentary. Just a link and a note saying there&#8217;s an update on the lawsuit Kellnsuz was wondering about and if she hasn&#8217;t read it please tell her the info is here (on this blog).  How that translates into &#8220;lying&#8221; to your &#8220;friend&#8217;s kid&#8221; is beyond me. </p>
<p>Like I said, you&#8217;ve made your decision and don&#8217;t seem much interested in your agency&#8217;s situation and the &#8220;evidence&#8221; you originally posted asking for.  I&#8217;m through trying to help you find &#8220;evidence.&#8221;  Good luck.  Hopefully, your adoption will proceed under the new rules wherein a child is determined to be an orphan or not BEFORE a parent goes and adopts him/her in Viet Nam.  That should protect you from having to be stuck in Viet Nam like other families are right now.</p>
<p>Next time, admit you are using an agency that has all the issues already noted here because they have a child you want to adopt, period. Or do it in secret.  Because your attempts to distinguish this or that are not effective.  The facts stand as they are and your own agency director (director of the board of directors) started an agency with the infamous Maily Latrace, fibbed about his involvement with her (as indicated by the Florida DCF among other sources) and prosecuted a case for her which he lost (and may even end up paying attorneys fees for).  Still director of your agency.  And even another director of your agency is still trying to represent Maily Latrace.  Not at all the &#8220;clean break&#8221; you posted about.  </p>
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		<title>By: kellnsuz</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-138</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone, and I have no idea who, (because they are hiding behind anonymity), LIED to my friend&#039;s daughter, I am afraid of what you people will do if I tell the names of the current LP facilitators.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Please ask Little Pearls for the names of their facilitators.  They have nothing to hide from you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whoever is hiding behind a mask, using and lying to my friends&#039; children who are completely unrelated to my adoption, should show their face.  You can email me, since you say that posting to my blog does not work, it is kellnsuz@gmail.com  and I would love to have a conversation with you and find out why you are dragging my friends&#039; children into this.&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not know where else the person would be coming from other than a reader here, because I no longer post to any Yahoo Group nor did I name our agency on my blog.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is sad and wrong.  This is very divisive.  I hoped to get some help.  You people attack me and judge me saying I ask and then I don&#039;t listen.  That is wrong.  I&#039;m actually also having long, detailed conversations with our agency at the same time.  I am seeking to find out what I feel is necessary to find out.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I know that by the time my Vietnamese child is old enough to read the internet and look up the agency or any other information, we will all have more knowledge than we do now.  You do not scare by saying what you said.  I am completely open with my Chinese daughter as I am with my bio children.  I will be completely open with her.  If there is some fault to be placed, I&#039;m sure that by that time it will be known and all will be in the light.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I am finally checking out and off.....this has saddened me and taken enough of my energy.   &lt;br /&gt;
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(and so nobody can judge and slam me further, yes, I have read the documents.  Yes, I plan to read the current documents.  Yes, I have already asked about the facilitators in VN and I know their names and when I go, I will have eyes wide open and ears to hear for anything behind the scenes.  IF I find anything that falls in line with unethical or illegal activity, please know that I will not ignore it.  I never have.  That&#039;s why I&#039;ve been here asking questions.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone, and I have no idea who, (because they are hiding behind anonymity), LIED to my friend&#8217;s daughter, I am afraid of what you people will do if I tell the names of the current LP facilitators.  </p>
<p>Please ask Little Pearls for the names of their facilitators.  They have nothing to hide from you.</p>
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Whoever is hiding behind a mask, using and lying to my friends&#8217; children who are completely unrelated to my adoption, should show their face.  You can email me, since you say that posting to my blog does not work, it is <a href="mailto:kellnsuz@gmail.com">kellnsuz@gmail.com</a>  and I would love to have a conversation with you and find out why you are dragging my friends&#8217; children into this.</p>
<p>I do not know where else the person would be coming from other than a reader here, because I no longer post to any Yahoo Group nor did I name our agency on my blog.</p>
<p>This is sad and wrong.  This is very divisive.  I hoped to get some help.  You people attack me and judge me saying I ask and then I don&#8217;t listen.  That is wrong.  I&#8217;m actually also having long, detailed conversations with our agency at the same time.  I am seeking to find out what I feel is necessary to find out.  </p>
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I know that by the time my Vietnamese child is old enough to read the internet and look up the agency or any other information, we will all have more knowledge than we do now.  You do not scare by saying what you said.  I am completely open with my Chinese daughter as I am with my bio children.  I will be completely open with her.  If there is some fault to be placed, I&#8217;m sure that by that time it will be known and all will be in the light.  </p>
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I am finally checking out and off&#8230;..this has saddened me and taken enough of my energy.   </p>
<p>(and so nobody can judge and slam me further, yes, I have read the documents.  Yes, I plan to read the current documents.  Yes, I have already asked about the facilitators in VN and I know their names and when I go, I will have eyes wide open and ears to hear for anything behind the scenes.  IF I find anything that falls in line with unethical or illegal activity, please know that I will not ignore it.  I never have.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve been here asking questions.</p>
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		<title>By: adoptionblogmom</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>adoptionblogmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be.... Keith filed the motion to &quot;stop the summary judgment against her AND FEINBERG dismissing THE COMPLAINT filed by Feinberg.&quot;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Face it...you want whatever child is being referred to you and are prepared to use an agency with all these players and with your full knowledge about these players (and refuse to find out more damning things by refusing to read the case file -- the exact legal stuff you asked for in the first place.&quot;  Instead of saying &quot;Oh  well, I hope I don&#039;t get a NOID and it works out&quot; you post all over the internet, first asking for facts and then when you get them, you either ignore them (you have not read the case file, try the deposition of Ric Feinberg) or you try to dispute them which you cannot since they are facts. If you really must get on this woman&#039;s blog and try to make facts go away (they don&#039;t) why don&#039;t you instead tell us who the facilitators in Viet Nam who will actually arrange your G&amp;R?  If you&#039;d read the case file, you&#039;d see Ric Feinberg still had plans to use the services of Agnes Latrace (Mai Ly&#039;s mother). &lt;br /&gt;
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Once again, stop lashing out at people who are giving you all this information you asked for.  And...don&#039;t forget, your own child will be reading this stuff when he/she Googles her adoption agency, which will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be&#8230;. Keith filed the motion to &#8220;stop the summary judgment against her AND FEINBERG dismissing THE COMPLAINT filed by Feinberg.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Face it&#8230;you want whatever child is being referred to you and are prepared to use an agency with all these players and with your full knowledge about these players (and refuse to find out more damning things by refusing to read the case file &#8212; the exact legal stuff you asked for in the first place.&#8221;  Instead of saying &#8220;Oh  well, I hope I don&#8217;t get a NOID and it works out&#8221; you post all over the internet, first asking for facts and then when you get them, you either ignore them (you have not read the case file, try the deposition of Ric Feinberg) or you try to dispute them which you cannot since they are facts. If you really must get on this woman&#8217;s blog and try to make facts go away (they don&#8217;t) why don&#8217;t you instead tell us who the facilitators in Viet Nam who will actually arrange your G&amp;R?  If you&#8217;d read the case file, you&#8217;d see Ric Feinberg still had plans to use the services of Agnes Latrace (Mai Ly&#8217;s mother). </p>
<p>Once again, stop lashing out at people who are giving you all this information you asked for.  And&#8230;don&#8217;t forget, your own child will be reading this stuff when he/she Googles her adoption agency, which will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: adoptionblogmom</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>adoptionblogmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Keith Wynne just recently filed a motion with the court seeking to represent Mai Ly Latrace and to stop the summary judgment against her filed by Feinberg.  He lost.  The judge threw the case out entirely, over Keith Wynne&#039;s objections.  Keith Wynne (along with Debbie and Elizabeth), who was actively seeking to represent Mai Ly Latrace, is on the board of your agency.  So much for a clean break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Keith Wynne just recently filed a motion with the court seeking to represent Mai Ly Latrace and to stop the summary judgment against her filed by Feinberg.  He lost.  The judge threw the case out entirely, over Keith Wynne&#8217;s objections.  Keith Wynne (along with Debbie and Elizabeth), who was actively seeking to represent Mai Ly Latrace, is on the board of your agency.  So much for a clean break.</p>
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		<title>By: adoptionblogmom</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>adoptionblogmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s the director of the Board of Little Pearls.  That makes him the big man in charge.  Board of Directors run companies. He holds the highest position on the Board.  In the case mentioned, there is much said about him and by him.  And this is the head honcho at your agency. These are facts.  Sorry they upset you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s the director of the Board of Little Pearls.  That makes him the big man in charge.  Board of Directors run companies. He holds the highest position on the Board.  In the case mentioned, there is much said about him and by him.  And this is the head honcho at your agency. These are facts.  Sorry they upset you.</p>
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		<title>By: kellnsuz</title>
		<link>http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/little-pearls-adoption-agency/comment-page-1#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>kellnsuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CORRECTION:  &lt;br /&gt;
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Ric Feinberg is the Director OF THE BOARD for Little Pearls&lt;br /&gt;
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So, using the word &quot;director&quot; with Ric Feinberg would not be incorrect, but it would be incomplete as he&#039;s NOT the agency director as we&#039;d all presume an agency director to be. That would be Liz&#039;s job.  &lt;br /&gt;
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He holds a position on the board. &lt;br /&gt;
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<p>Ric Feinberg is the Director OF THE BOARD for Little Pearls<br />
Liz Morrill is the Director of the Agency</p>
<p>So, using the word &#8220;director&#8221; with Ric Feinberg would not be incorrect, but it would be incomplete as he&#8217;s NOT the agency director as we&#8217;d all presume an agency director to be. That would be Liz&#8217;s job.  </p>
<p>He holds a position on the board. </p>
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